Posts by S K Ditta

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

S K Ditta

pretty pictures, important only if there really was a talking snake, and the Earth created in the beginning, instead of 10 billion years later.

The ancients sure had a much grander view, a telling vision of life and kingdoms.

All this information, propaganda campaigns, and criticism on the Internet has degraded the human mind, and sunk many into a very disillusioned state of hopelessness. Even great thinkers of our times see it now, and fear for the future of the coming generations.

The value of the vision - human or divine - stands upon the believer to a large extent...10 billion years old earth, or merely a little over 6,000.

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Why is Trump so effective???

by Coded Logic in

i think trump is an absolute idiot.

his tactics, however, are undeniably effective.

thought i'd just put together a short list of some of the things he does.

S K Ditta

The value of the UN cannot be overstated.

It is the indeed the grand stage of the world's theater! And Samantha Powers, representing the US made quite a grand exit by abstaining from supporting Israel for the first time in a long history of US-Israel relations. This happened at the close of the Obama tenure as President, year 2016.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-of-us-envoy-samantha-powers-speech-after-abstention-on-anti-settlement-vote/

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Why is Trump so effective???

by Coded Logic in

i think trump is an absolute idiot.

his tactics, however, are undeniably effective.

thought i'd just put together a short list of some of the things he does.

S K Ditta

One of the most fascinating political experiments in the contemporary world is occurring in China

Thank you, Fulltimestudent. Your response is rooted in observation.

The case of China must be understood in its cultural context. The stamp down on the commoners, anti-individualism, and strong nationalistic sentiment could perhaps not be sustained in a free-minded, "enlightened" Western setup.

The idea of a national identity is possibly and strongly being advocated in France, Germany, and Austria at present. The size of population makes such movements rapid and sustainable. With larger populations dissent is an ever-growing, ever-present problem. Wouldn't you say?

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God’s name (Jehovah) is so ambiguous to the extent of even supporting The Theory of Evolution!

by venus in

we have been taught that the name jehovah means “he causes to become.” it is interpreted that he causes himself to become whatever needed to accomplish his will—as happened in the case israelites to whom he “caused himself to become” a savior leading them from slavery in egypt.. but there is a problem with this definition.

nobody would use the phrase “cause to become” with regard to himself.

one may say: “i helped him,” (but he won’t say: “i caused myself to become a helper to him.”) “causing myself to become a helper to another person” obviously implies helping nature comes with effort as though it is not in my nature.

S K Ditta

substituting the word "Lord" for it.

The word, "Lord" seems to imply respect. If someone addressed a person as "Lord", such as a judge in courtroom, it would seem to imply respect.

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This is What I Would Need in Order to Believe

by cofty in

sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.

various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.

i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.

S K Ditta

else one is simply deluding themselves.

We all delude ourselves in a way over the entire stretch of our lives. Specifically, in instances and events, we retain a measure of predictability and certainty. So it seems!

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

S K Ditta

Thank you, Waton.

Eden Restored

22 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.

Is this the scenario you refer to?

Carrying the mythology of those swords into modern warfare is stretching it

Not so, I believe. The implications are very real, as George Bush proved by his decisions and actions. Ever since, based on a belief system from the "talking snake" book, trillions of real dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives have been affected in actual, physical reality.

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Hello

by S K Ditta in

jw
friends

hello everyone.. have visited this site several times over the past year or so.. thanks for letting all have an opportunity to interact.. hope that, words uttered result in good - now or later!

that's the wish..

S K Ditta

And may I ask the same of you? Thanks.

I see, how this appears abrupt and awkward. No offense meant to anyone.

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It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts?

by stuckinarut2 in

i often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?.

i mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care.

"it is the truth after all".. they are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it.

S K Ditta

A question: If "facts" as basic as time, space, gravity, historical events, and international relations are open to question...what absolute facts does anyone have that can forever be unchallenged? For JWs or otherwise, it is merely an excuse for a temporary certainty. This, I opine.

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

S K Ditta

after sailing around for one year Noah ends up in the same area.

Did he sail around? Perhaps he remained more-or-less in the same place, thankful for his existence and that of his family, as-well-as the animals with him. Quite similar to our existence on earth, actually, seen in the context of a vast universe or even the solar-system.

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This is What I Would Need in Order to Believe

by cofty in

sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.

various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.

i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.

S K Ditta

I think it's a common mistake to imagine that we can actually choose our beliefs. It's better to ask questions, study, debate and reflect. Our beliefs happen while we engage in that process.

Pardon me, Cofty. This response was lost in the avalanche of information. Hence, the delay. Thank you, for taking the time to respond. Besides, others have had so much to contribute. Sorry that, I have no specific arguments or counter-arguments for the OP or later. For that, it may simply be disregarded by you or any other.

Your response is fascinating. Hence the question(open to all, of course): Are beliefs merely a function of the intellect? For if they are, then those are understandably subject to changes. Else, they are impervious to external, transitory factors.